beebee

Quote:

Sweden's controversial decision not to impose a strict lockdown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic led to too many deaths, the man behind the policy, Anders Tegnell, has acknowledged.

Sweden has seen a far higher mortality rate than its nearest neighbours and its nationals are being barred from crossing their borders.

Dr Tegnell told Swedish radio more should have been done early on.

"There is quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done."

Sweden has counted 4,542 deaths and 40,803 infections in a population of 10 million, while Denmark, Norway and Finland have imposed lockdowns and seen far lower rates.

Denmark has seen 580 deaths, Norway has had 237 deaths and Finland 321. Sweden reported a further 74 deaths on Wednesday.

Y

Continued-    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52903717
We will not win fighting what we hate but by saving what we love.

Keep Calm and Carry On 👍


Quote 2 0
PaganWoman
Proof that restrictions work.  This should be causing head explosions everywhere.  Thanks for sharing BeeBee.
Love Wins...it takes time and seems as if it will never truly win ....believe it will ~PaganWoman
Quote 2 0
Sriracha
Ooopsy
Pipeline and Railroad across the Berring Strait: Bye bye middle east quagmires. Bye bye 23ft/gal super tankers polluting the world. Add a highway to that. Then we can drive to Asia, Europe and Africa. Road trip heaven!
Quote 1 0
beebee
I think it’s too early to pronounce the lock down wasn’t the right way to go.
We have no idea if we hadn’t had done it how many more cases there may have been.

All we really had to go on with this novel virus was what we saw coming out of Wuhan and Italy.
And how can anyone claim by blocking air travel from China and later the EU, stopped the increase in spread, but people continuing to intermingle in this country wouldn’t have?

While the numbers of cases seem to be dropping in some of the bigger populations that first got hit and overall nationally, it’s my understanding it’s still carrying on its spread in some of the more rural areas and in flyover country.

Hence I too will continue to still exercise caution, until it’s truly gone or there is a cure or vaccine.

We did however see our children and grandchild this past weekend, out in the sun, so after 3 plus months in isolation and having been sick the prior first 6-7 weeks, it felt like it had been all this year and was just so great!!!

I must admit we all agreed to meet outdoors for an hour and with masks and then it escalated from there, to swimming in the gulf and having dinner together but if we were willing to take a risk, we did it w the people we love and it greatly improved all our mental states to be w together again. 💕

🐝
We will not win fighting what we hate but by saving what we love.

Keep Calm and Carry On 👍


Quote 1 0
beebee
4542 per 10 million.

330 mil US approx population.

So if let’s say if not locked down, US possibly 4542 x33 = 149,886 roughly 150,000 and still  counting.
plus not national healthcare system.

And what if we had locked down even sooner?

What did each week of delay cost us?
We opted to self isolate even before it was required.
In order for a virus to spread it needs a host.

I know there has been a huge economic cost/loss from the lock down
but what China seemed most concerned w was getting crops planted
and harvested in time in order to be able to feed people.

The economy can always rebound.

Wonder w all the meat plants down from those Covid19 infected, if that shouldn’t be our warning moving away from dependence on conglomerate monopolies, putting all our eggs in so few baskets,
so to speak.

And getting back to more supporting local farms and a localized market, that doesn’t need long distance transport.

The shutdown showed and taught us the hard way many things, errors in our systems,
lifestyles and hopefully lessons  we can try learn from the Asteroid Virus Strike before trying to return to the ‘old’ normal.

Blue skies were nice to see in many cities/ countries, fresh air to breath, as wildlife started to return in such a short period of time.

Reaching out to friends.
Valuing life, relationships  and not taking it and those so much for granted.

🐝
We will not win fighting what we hate but by saving what we love.

Keep Calm and Carry On 👍


Quote 2 0
PaganWoman
beebee wrote:
I think it’s too early to pronounce the lock down wasn’t the right way to go.
We have no idea if we hadn’t had done it how many more cases there may have been.

All we really had to go on with this novel virus was what we saw coming out of Wuhan and Italy.
And how can anyone claim by blocking air travel from China and later the EU, stopped the increase in spread, but people continuing to intermingle in this country wouldn’t have?

While the numbers of cases seem to be dropping in some of the bigger populations that first got hit and overall nationally, it’s my understanding it’s still carrying on its spread in some of the more rural areas and in flyover country.

Hence I too will continue to still exercise caution, until it’s truly gone or there is a cure or vaccine.

We did however see our children and grandchild this past weekend, out in the sun, so after 3 plus months in isolation and having been sick the prior first 6-7 weeks, it felt like it had been all this year and was just so great!!!

I must admit we all agreed to meet outdoors for an hour and with masks and then it escalated from there, to swimming in the gulf and having dinner together but if we were willing to take a risk, we did it w the people we love and it greatly improved all our mental states to be w together again. 💕

🐝



I believe the shelter in place has worked.  Especially - here in America where working while ILL is encouraged and those who call "out sick" are shamed and penalized.  Until people feel safe calling in ILL there is no security in relying on the people to not bring their illness into the work place. 

I have not seen my sister, who is in a nursing home, since March - but I have sent her packages of treats, UNO cards to play with her roomie and Face timing her at least weekly. 

This has been hard on everyone - that said my Sister is still alive and so is my beloved husband and son.  I think I am okay with how it has been handled. 
Love Wins...it takes time and seems as if it will never truly win ....believe it will ~PaganWoman
Quote 2 0
Alligator Ed
Try this link to National Geographic's SARS2 web site.  Very helpful reference to cases in each US county.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/graphic-tracking-coronavirus-infections-us/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=crm-email::src=ngp::cmp=editorial::add=SpecialEdition_20200515&rid=73A8D43223D05720D180DC02DBE2AA18
Quote 0 0
beebee


What a great site, Alligator Ed.
Very similar to Florida’s excellent Covid19 site as far as nationally showing all counties.

I especially like that it breaks it down into percentages of the population, per 100,000 as far as number of cases and per 10,000 as far of number of deaths.

The rankings of county in it’s State, tho do not seem based on percentages per se  but more on prevalence I think.

A few days ago I read that 19 States had seen an upswing.

I also read that in Georgia the cases had doubled, and Florida had seen the biggest spike since mid April.

While Georgia’s cases have increased over the past week, that doesn’t appear to be true unless they were referring to the week before that and not near as substantially as Florida’s are.
Looks like the biggest spike since the beginning of April, which is a concern.

Anyway, I shall bookmark this and keep it for future ref.

Thanks again.

bee 
We will not win fighting what we hate but by saving what we love.

Keep Calm and Carry On 👍


Quote 0 0